The Veneer of Accountability Is Wearing Thin in 21st-Century America – scheerpost.com

2022-05-13 03:36:24 By : Mr. Kevin Cui

By Karen J. Greenberg | TomDispatch

If you watched TV in the 1960s and 1970s as I did, you would undoubtedly have come away with the idea that this country’s courts, law enforcement agencies, and the laws they aimed to honor added up to a system in which justice was always served.

In those years, for instance, Perry Mason was a much-loved staple from coast to coast. In each episode, Perry, that intrepid, tall, dark, kindly genius of a defense attorney, would face off against Hamilton Burger, a small-boned, pointy faced, sanctimonious prosecutor — and justice would always be served. He had what seemed then to be an all-American knack for uncovering exactly the right evidence of misdeeds that would lead justice directly to the doorstep of the true perpetrator of any crime and bring him or her to account. The takeaway caught the mood of the time: the courts and the legal system were powerful platforms for serving justice, sorting out right from wrong, punishing the criminals, and exonerating the innocent.

A few years later, Colombo would portray a police investigator whose reputation resided in his ability to sift through misleading facts and intentional subterfuge, unearth reliable evidence as well as the true culprits in any crime, and — without fail — bring them to justice.

Those two shows caught the essence of how most Americans then felt about the justice system in this country.  We trusted it.  Today, it’s not just that you can’t find such shows on TV anymore, it’s that trust in the legal system, fictional or otherwise, is rapidly fading, succumbing to the dangerous poison of this partisan moment and an ever more partisan Supreme Court. As Americans watch from the sidelines, the courts and the legal system continue to visibly fumble in the dark for legitimacy of any sort.

Yes, pundits and experts (like the rest of us) tend to focus on disastrous individual cases that interest them like the one in which those who plotted to kidnap and kill Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer managed to escape conviction or, say, the acquittal of the youthful Kyle Rittenhouse who used an assault rifle to kill two men at a Black Lives Matter protest. But here’s the truth of our moment: the larger picture of American (in)justice has become far more damning than any case could be. Ultimately, after all, the issue isn’t the outcome of any specific case, but trust (or increasingly, the lack of it) in the system that’s supposed to administer, adjudicate, and legitimate the law in America.

Despite the recent scandal over the Supreme Court’s coming decision to overrule Roe v. Wade, nowhere is this clearer than in the cases surrounding the January 6th Capitol riot.

It’s hard to describe the Justice Department’s handling of the insurrection on January 6, 2021, as anything other than appalling. Nearly a year and a half later, despite more than 800 indictments of individuals involved in the assault on the Capitol, no charges have yet been filed against either former President Donald Trump or any of his close allies who helped plan, fund, and execute the attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Instead, Attorney General Merrick Garland appears to have thrown up his hands in defeat, as if to suggest that the controversy around holding Trump and his associates accountable has simply been more than he can handle.

From law schools, lawyers, and legal theorists have called for the Justice Department to face that threat to democracy and act have only grown louder. In March, for instance, Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe and former federal prosecutor Dennis Aftergut urged Garland to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the former president based on evidence already presented in other lawsuits. No such appointment has yet been forthcoming.

To underscore the mounting evidence in the public record against those former officials, Ryan Goodman, Mari Dugas, and Nicholas Tonckens at Just Security played prosecutor (as Garland hasn’t) and laid out their own timeline of dozens of incriminating acts, beginning a year before the riot, that could collectively justify charges against Trump and crew of incitement to violence. In April, according to New York Times reporters Michael Schmidt and Luke Broadwater, the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol had “concluded that they have enough evidence” to make a criminal referral about the former president to the Justice Department, though they have yet to vote to do so. Meanwhile, a federal judge in California ruled in a civil suit that Trump “likely attempted to obstruct the joint session of Congress” meant to certify Joe Biden’s electoral victory, adding that “the illegality of the plan was obvious.”

Sadly, the Teflon coating on Trump and his associates has been striking. After all, in January, the House Select Committee voted to back contempt charges against former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows for refusing to comply with a subpoena for his testimony. To date, however, Attorney General Garland hasn’t followed up. More recently, the House Select Committee voted to hold in contempt former White House advisers Peter Navarro and Dan Scavino for a similar refusal to comply with subpoenas. The results will likely be the same.

Even where there has been some willingness to indict, the courts have been remarkably stymied when it comes to forward momentum on cases involving Trump’s crew. In November, for instance, Steve Bannon, one-time senior aide to the president, was indeed indicted on contempt of Congress charges for his refusal to respond to subpoenas from the House Select Committee. Bannon promptly pushed back, arguing that longstanding Justice Department memos held former presidential advisers immune from such congressional subpoenas. In March, a federal judge finally asked to see those memos. And so it goes — and goes and goes. And as time passes, so, too, does the likelihood that justice will ever be done.

As for the former president’s business affairs involving the Trump Organization, the process has faltered in a remarkably similar fashion. Earlier this year, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg dropped an investigation of the former president. He was reportedly convinced that, in the end, he wouldn’t be able to prove that Trump and his closest employees were motivated by theft when they lied about the value of his businesses. Bragg decided not to pursue charges against Trump despite the aggressive efforts of his predecessor, Cyrus Vance, to uncover just such a record and the opinion of a respected lawyer brought in to shepherd the investigation through who, in an outraged letter of resignation, insisted that Trump had indeed committed “numerous [financial] felony violations.”  (It had taken Vance years and a Supreme Court decision just to get the company tax records for his case against Trump.)

In early May, a grand jury that had been convened to consider charges against Trump expired. Now, it seems that New York State Attorney General Letitia James’s efforts to bring charges of fraud could crumble as well.

Of course, even a president who tried to mount a coup to cancel the results of an election should be able to avail himself of the American system’s legal protections and defenses. That said, in failing to hold Trump accountable for more or less anything, a message is being sent about justice in this century: that accountability is just not in the cards for American officials who commit crimes. (Of course, one can still hope that the special investigative Georgia grand jury just seated to look into Trump’s possible attempts to disrupt the 2020 election in that state might prove more effective, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.)

Sadly enough, the incapacity of the courts and the legal system to administer accountability for terrible crimes is a phenomenon that’s hardly reserved for Washington politicians and their aides. Abuses of power throughout the country are regularly being overlooked, notably in the mounting examples of police killings of unarmed Black men and women. Across the U.S., courts have repeatedly proven unable to hold accountable police perpetrators whose racist actions had been videotaped and witnessed. Though there have been rare exceptions as, for instance, in the case of the killing of George Floyd, where police officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murder and three police officers were convicted of “violating his rights,” the impunity of so many policemen accused of killing Blacks has become a theme of American life. The list is long. Prosecutors in Kenosha, Wisconsin, for instance, decided not even to file charges against the officer who shot and paralyzed Jacob Blake in August, 2020; none of the police who stormed into Breonna Taylor’s house in Louisville, Kentucky, in March 2020 and killed her for doing nothing whatsoever were even charged; and no policemen in Minneapolis earlier this spring were held accountable for shooting and kililng Amir Locke. And that’s just to begin a list that goes on and on.

And let’s face it, when it comes to the slow erosion of justice and accountability in this country, there’s nothing new or simply Trumpian about that. In fact, there’s been a slow erosion of the viability of the mechanisms of justice and accountability for all too long. For two decades now, the offshore American prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, has stood as a stunning symbol of American injustice, as well as of the inability to convict anyone for the attacks of 9/11 (as opposed to simply holding them endlessly in prison cells offshore of American justice). Nor has there been the slightest accountability for public officials, from the president on down, who gave the green light to a wholesale torture program at CIA “black sites” around the world. Nor, for that matter, were President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and other top officials of their administration ever held accountable for knowingly relying on a lie — the supposed existence of weapons of mass destruction in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq — as a pretext for invading a distant land.

For Bush, it was a matter of embracing horrifying misdeeds in the name of national security. For Barack Obama, it was a matter of not wanting to spend the political capital required to hold his predecessor accountable. As he famously said in the days leading up to his inauguration, this country needed “to look forward as opposed to looking backward” when it came to the Bush administration’s use of torture and warrantless surveillance in the war on terror. The ability of the CIA to function effectively in the future, he argued, should not be undermined. Merrick Garland’s profound passivity when it comes to January 6th may, in fact, just be an extension of that very philosophy.

So profound has the distaste for pursuing accountability been in these years that administration after administration and Congress after Congress have forfeited any trust in the federal courts even to try those accused of perpetrating the 9/11 attacks, leaving the case instead to the broken and incapacitated military commissions at Guantánamo. What would Perry Mason or Columbo have made of that?

There was a time, not that long ago, when the courts still held accountable those in high office who abused power. A president and an attorney general, for instance, authorized a secret and illicit intelligence unit to spy on the Democratic National Committee, to break into Democratic headquarters, and then to cover-up that very break-in. For this, of course, President Richard Nixon and his top advisers were held accountable in the famous Senate Watergate hearings. Nixon resigned; 40 members of his administration were indeed indicted; many, including top officials, were jailed, among them the president’s chief of staff, his attorney general, his White House legal counsel, and some of his top advisers. Not only were they convicted, but they were found guilty in a timely fashion, the trials and guilty pleas coming within two years of the crime itself.

John Dean, a top Nixon aide convicted of obstruction of justice — he served four months in prison for it — recently made a prediction that underscores the gap between then and now. His testimony at the Watergate hearings had been pivotal in exposing the administration’s cover-up of the break-in. This March, he weighed in on reports that Michael Cohen, Donald Trump’s former lawyer, had on seven occasions visited the offices of Manhattan prosecutors working on the criminal investigation into Trump’s finances. As Dean tweeted then, “From personal experience as a key witness I assure you that you do not visit a prosecutor’s office 7 times if they are not planning to indict those about whom you have knowledge. It is only a matter of how many days until DA Vance indicts Donald & Co.”

And yet the days went by and nothing happened until the case was dropped. Dean had miscalculated in thinking that the past was relevant to the present.

Still, is there any hope that, in the long run, he might prove correct?  After all, New York Attorney General Letitia James has not yet dropped her possible case against Trump and his company. Better yet, recently a New York supreme court justice found the former president in contempt of court for failing to comply with a subpoena to produce documents from his personal files. His initial appeal having failed, he’s being penalized $10,000 a day until the records are turned over.

So, between New York and Georgia, hope, however minimal, remains when it comes to holding Donald Trump accountable for something.  Still, there’s so much more at stake than the case of one president, many police officers, or even an ever more partisan and political Supreme Court. Whether most Americans realize it or not, the future legitimacy of the courts themselves are now in play. Without a functioning court system, one that can stand up effectively to illegal political machinations, as well as partisan and ideological attacks, the law belongs solely to those in power.

And it’s not just here at home that the legitimacy of the courts is coming into question. In the international context, too, the potential anemia of criminal courts is being challenged by the war in Ukraine.  Calls for bringing war-crimes charges against Russian President Vladimir Putin and members of the Russian military have been persistent. Reports of summary executions, the targeting of civilians, and mounting evidence of cruelties and atrocities have led to multiple accusations of violations of the laws of war. The chief prosecutor at the International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague has already joined with the European Union to conduct an investigation into possible war crimes. But as many experts have pointed out, it’s hard to say how long that investigation might take and whether or not charges will ever be leveled, no less brought effectively to bear. In this regard, Washington’s failure to hold its officials accountable in the past or even to join the ICC should be noted.

And that’s just one more arena where, on a planet increasingly pushed to the brink, the rule of law may prove to be ever more of an aspiration and ever less of a reality.

At the moment, we find ourselves at an all-too-dangerous crossroads. Without our courts and the system of law they represent being truly functional, citizens could be left to settle things for themselves in true Trumpian fashion. In the international context, war defies the courts and the rule of law. In the domestic context, unregulated violence plays a similar role. As it stands now, when it comes to our system of justice, its veneer of effectiveness is wearing ever thinner.

Merrick Garland and other Americans would do well to consider that it’s not just the cases before our courts that are at issue, but the future viability of the institutions of justice themselves. In the world we now find ourselves in, the very idea of a Perry Mason could prove all too once upon a time. 

Karen J. Greenberg, a TomDispatch regular, is the director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law and author of the newly published Subtle Tools: The Dismantling of Democracy from the War on Terror to Donald Trump (Princeton University Press). Julia Tedesco helped with research for this piece.

Discussions about we “save” American “democracy” are both useless and a waste of valuable mental resources.

All thoughts, plans, efforts and strategies need to be directed toward undermining and overthrowing this system.

Having no way to overrule voter suppression laws in the states, the Democrats will lose. Millions of people will not accept this outcome as legitimate.

Intoxicated fascist radicals will pass laws that overrule all the advances made since Brown vs. Board of Education, maybe that one also.

Armed uprisings against all of this are inevitable.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/pro-life-office-firebombed/

Expect retaliation, and retaliation against the retaliation.

Much of the rest of the world will be happy to see the US mired in civil conflict and paralysis. Maybe some of those soldiers will need to come home to restore order: their ranks are full of white nationalists and neo-fascists.

The possibility of de facto separation into hostile statelets is imaginable: all that’s needed are a number of states to imitate DeSantis’ creation of his own militia and defy federal statutes.

No one will pay much attention to laws and decrees of a judiciary that has been totally discredited.

Force will be the political currency.

Fully agree re your first sentence re democracy. I loathe hearing or reading something like we have to save our democracy from X or Y or whatever. What chronically and conveniently gets ignored is that America was never a democracy, isn’t one now nor will ever be one. The very word “democracy” or any variant of it is found in the Constitution, any of the Amendments nor the Declaration of Independence. For as much as we overuse that word, one would think it would have been written at least once in one of those documents. But nope. American democracy is a political fantasy, and you can’t save that which you never had. Once that realization sinks in to more brains, then just maybe there will be a chance.

But, I have no hope of that. America is the Titanic. We hit the iceberg long ago. For my generation, it may have been 9/11. For earlier generations, it may have been Vietnam or the assassination of JFK, MLK, RFK or whoever. But as with the actual Titanic, when our ship snaps in half, it’ll only be a moment or two before all plummet to the icy floor. IMO this ship will snap in half when the US dollar ceases to be the world reserve currency. Because when that happens, it’s over. What its aftermath will be, it could be anything, except it’ll be nothing good.

Correct as far as you go. All of what you describe will happen at the same time the economy is crashing and we start World War 3. The Trifecta of the Apocalypse….

………and one last word to cap all of it……. Assange !

Oh, this person’s entire foundation — and she starts with TV shows (this is so infantile, that, we have to wonder who she is writing for) — naivete at its best.

I am not sure what planet she has been living on, and then to imagine the USA was somehow a better place say, 40 or 50 years ago? Legally? For the small guy and gal? And she makes a few shekels yammer on about Trump . . . .

I get that Scheer Post loves Tom Dispatch, but, well, we can go over to that web site and get this mush. I am not sure why we see so much reposting here. That is the gambit of fewer and fewer outlets for liberal bleery eyed punditry.

How many treaties with First Nations people’s — treaties signed into law, with and for the US legal system — were broken? Law? Laws? SCOTUS?

There is a certain rhetorical mealy mouthing the Greenbergs or any number of East Coast trained legal eagles deploy when writing about the rule of law. And, then, in one quip, Putin and War Crimes in the same breath as Trump and Insurrection?

Yeah, I couldn’t make it past the first few paragraphs. God bless you if you did.

Putin and Trump… peas in a pod. That is something Karen got right.

As far as the TV thing (ting): For people 50 and over, network television content in their youth likely had a bigger impact on their socialization than public school, religious training or parents. It was something most people had in common. It was pap, and it was brainwashing, but it held the meatloaf together like egg whites. The Internet, while more invasive and powerful has proven not so cohesive.

The reason for all of this inaction should be obvious: if Trump is successfully prosecuted, Biden’s malfeasances, revealed in his son’s laptop computer, would be fodder for a criminal prosecution if and when Republicans gain a majority in congress, and the Democratic party doesn’t want to set that precedent.

That’s 100% correct. Hunter is the gorilla in the room.

Hunter is the American Everyman. He’s another Forrest Gump.

Yep (Jim Gala), jail one: jail ’em all.

I recall Robert McNamara confessing to having committed war crimes in “The Fog of War.” (thanks Errol Morris) But in advanced age he had become just another Rudolf Hess, glued to his TV in Spandau. (*A note: Hess was the probable ghost writer of “Mein Kampf.” Ivana Trump snitches that the Donald kept an English translation in his nightstand.)

Thank you for this summary of today’s non-justice counterpointed to justice served back when I was in my 20’s and 30’s. Donziger’s experience with a deeply twisted, corporatized (non/in)injustice system is an x-ray of our current rotting judicial system. Could the Powell Memorandum be the corrupting seed leading to the cancer infesting our judicial system today? All things corporatized ultimately sicken and die. No wonder Jesus threw the money-changers out of the temple.

What happened on 9/11/01 in New York City and the Pentagon were “inside jobs” that have nothing to do with the patsies held at Guantanamo.

That’s utter, 100% fabricated, truther bullshit.

You’ve got your head buried in the ground. Of course, it was.

Totally agree – the official story of 9-11 is 100% bogus.

No veneer left. Too late for Lemon Pledge.

This is so spot on…the way EVERYTHING just drags on till it’s forgotten, or people just, in Obama’s phrase, ” move forward not back…” But move forward to WHAT.?. this country is SO OVER as a legal and moral entity, without force, without accountability, except for the lawyers..

Accountability, I see none. I haven’t seen such a thing in decades. Accountability requires a mechanism for righting wrongs. We have none. We have money and those who have it, and those who don’t. That, is all we have.

Of course Perry Mason and other TV shows like that were preposterous, just as cop shows and lawyer shows today are preposterous ( but far more reactionary, and far more widespread). The US loves to kid itself, to tell itself fantastic tales about how it conducts itself both here and abroad. These fantasies are suicidal, homicidal, insane. And one last thing: so glad Greenberg “notes” in an oblique way the brazen hypocrisy in US hack pundits and politicians demanding punishment of Russian soldiers and politicians by calling for war crimes tribunals for alleged atrocities committed during the ongoing Russian “Operation.” A country that had, or perhaps I should say finally realized its own massive war crimes should keep its collective mouth shut for once. But that’s not going to happen, is it?

War crimes of the USA are in endless re-runs just like Perry Mason and Colombo.

An article about the U.S. ” justice system” that neglects to mention the torture and persecution of Julien Assange is difficult to take very seriously. After all, what could be a more egregious example of a vindictive, corrupt, self serving, and criminal government. Assange’s crime, of course, is that he exposed U.S. war crimes and flagrant disregard for international law; nevermind the fact that he and WikiLeaks are not American. The implications of an almost certain conviction of Julien Assange are far reaching and fascistic; essentially the death knell for investigative reporting of the national security state throughout the world. Obsessing about Trump or Putin’s supposed war crimes (while omitting the U.S. role in the Maidan coup, NATO expansion, and the arming of Nazis) is taking one’s eye off the ball. The United States is a venal, corrupt, oligarchicy with a uni-party masquerading as a democracy – Trump is symptomatic of this degeneracy.

The disease lies within the brain of what we once called humans. We were impressed with power-over more than power-within. Guns and gunfighters were the heroes of post-war II when affordable television decided to stay onside with capitalist greed. So the medium that could have saved the human imagination became the tool of propaganda for the status quo. Which means that power must be socially battled over on the hierarchy of position. And bullies beat up kids whose clothes were not in fashion or whose attention to the memes of TV sitcoms was less than 90%. Our world of intelligence, compassion and creativity became the arrested development of bleeding hearts. Power only seeks more power supported by the arms industry and rape culture.

The future begins with this strategic plan: love everyone, hate no-one, move to the edge.

I was on board with the author of the article until Ukraine was mentioned. In terms of “accountability,” the U.S., engineered the Ukraine war and welcomed it as way to harm Russia and sell armaments.

This country has always been crooked. For every right event there have been a 100+ wrongs. For every Harriet Tubman there were 100+ slavers. We shouldn’t give up just because things are bleak. They have always been bleak. Grow a spine will ya?

Michel Foucault gave it that the disorder of justice makes for the order in society.

I would sharpen that with just one word: the pecking order in society. Foucault also argued, correctly, in my opinion, that ‘law and order’ are not entirely compatible exercises.

HRW is a State Department puppet organization and cannot be trusted in anything it says about any adversary of the United States. All pf the alleged Russian atrocities of which I have heard (apart from those reported by non-US aligned primary sources…they are not innocent) have more evidence pointing to Ukraine.

They have to make up (possibly deliberately commit for the purpose) sensational bullshit in order to preempt skepticism. With the more mundane shit it’s all well duh urban combat is like that. Doesn’t have the same impact. But how else will you make heroes of Nazis?

The so-called plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer was concocted by the FBI, and there were more informants in the group than civilians. Kyle Rittenhouse clearly acted in self-defense; did Karen J. Greenberg even watch the video of the shootings? The acquittals of these people are horrible examples to use to show that the U.S. justice system is broken. Can’t Scheerpost find better reporters to publish?

“Veneer” – you got that right. Perry Mason was useful for propping up PR for Pox Amerikana’s defense of the free world and justice for all, etc., etc. – and covering up such glaring contradictions as police state terror in its own internal racial caste colonies (for starters). But public welfare’s greater hearing during capitalism’s so-called golden era (those, like the U$ Fed, who have the gold, rule) was soon over by the early 1970s, as rollback of its already minimal support got underway with a vengeance (as with the Fed’s Volcker Shock and dissolution of the gold standard). By that time, TV cops were no longer so obliged to read Miranda rights as have Dirty Harry their role model in Nixon’s get-tough wars on crime and drugs, so the organized crime of the ruling class could crack back down with a federalized police state and prison industrial complex, especially reserved for the usual suspects of Amerikkkan apartheid (see Christian Parenti’s Lockdown America).

Early TV was the American Dream machine, extending mind control experimentation like MK Ultra/Naomi to the general population for drugged addiction to EMFs. Today, its artifice might seem crudely innocent, comparable to Plato’s cave wall, as population control has vastly expanded with much more sophisticated technique not only by means of cable and cellular industries but by literally making all the world a stage. As with underground advertising, where product placement is not just on screens but in our lives, so propaganda has more completely colonized social relations by manufacturing reality or pseudo-events in conformity with narratives serving strategic agenda (false flags, from Operation Gladio to color revolutions, provide a post-WW2 template). Our lives are made into movies, as our existence apart from electronics grows more tenuous.

The above report of reality repeats storylines produced and directed among captive audiences by such psychological warfare: the Whitmer plot, 9/11 terrorism, Jan. 6th insurrection, reality-show Trump scandals beyond Russiagate. Beginning with TV and ending with spectacle, it falls prey throughout to unaccountable forces, hidden in plain sight, that have long been the “invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country” (Bernays). All the worse now in the new abnormal initiated with covid-1984, in which our lives have been overtaken by totalitarian forces marching us into a synthetic world where we will be no more than extensions of AI.

And we though Abortion by Any Mean Necessary was going to be illegal in USA. Gates and Company, the Eugenics Elitists, they are here to the rescue. Vaxx the mother while she’s PG. Vaxx those kids 25 or thirty times by age 5.

https://www.corbettreport.com/gatesbook/

Journalist James Corbett read Bill Gates’ new book, “How to Prevent the Next Pandemic,” to save everyone else the trouble, he said.

In the 1-hour, 20-minute episode of “The Corbett Report,” Corbett — an expert on geopolitics and open-source journalism — analyzed the book chapter by chapter.

He found it “every bit as infuriating, nauseating, ridiculous, laughable and risible” as you would expect.

“Just when you thought you’d gotten rid of him, like a canker sore in the mouth of humanity, Bill Gates pops up yet again,” he said.

Not a scholarly or serious read, “How to Prevent the Next Pandemic” is written for the layperson who wants to virtue signal by being seen reading it — or displaying it on his coffee table, Corbett said.

“There is certainly nothing of scientific or medical value in here,” Corbett said. “There’s nothing even interesting here. It’s a baffling book even from a propagandistic perspective.”

The book is “ham-fisted,” even for Gates, Corbett said, “and everything BIll Gates does from a PR perspective is ham-fisted.”

Worse, Gates’ goal in writing the book is to disarm the public and prepare us to accept the agenda that Gates and his allies would like to impose on the world, Corbett claimed.

“Ultimately, what this is about is drumming up general public support — or at least general public understanding — of the unfolding biosecurity agenda,” he said.

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